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New Challenges from the Lowballers...and What to Do

When I was a photographers’ rep, I encountered lowballing all the time. Clients would say, “This guy came in at under half what you want. We have to go with him.” Now that I’m a consultant, I still hear from agencies that say that they often get bids from creative professionals that are incredibly low and/or that include all rights. While we all want to think that a freelance creative professional is chosen for his/her abilities, often the reality is that a client can find good creative for an incredibly low price...thanks to lowballers who are ruining the industry.

So, just what is lowballing and why is it really bad for all of us? Many people define lowballing as the act of charging less than your competition. That’s not an accurate definition. Lowballing is charging less than the fair market price. The difference between those two definitions is enormous.

Think about it, if you are a photographer, what’s the difference between losing a gig to a shooter whose estimate on a $10,000 project was $500 less than yours, and one who is willing to charge $1000 for the whole gig, including all the rights? In both situations, you didn’t get the work, right? However, in the first case you know that the other shooter was probably chosen because his/her style was more appropriate, or s/he has a long-standing working relationship with the client, or s/he brought something else to the project that worked better for the client. In the second case, it’s all about the money.

Lowballers usually rationalize their actions by saying that they work more days than other, more “expensive” freelancers, and it provides them a living. They say that they have lower overheads, which permit them to charge less and that if others want to compete, they’d better reduce their overheads and lower their rates. They live via “volume” sales like their work is some sort of commodity and not a creative service, and they see themselves as in competition with all others in their field.

The problem with those lines of thinking is that lowballing isn’t about competition; it’s about desperation and fear. They fear that if they don’t charge less, they won’t get the job and thus won’t be able to feed their families. They have to work more days in order to make that living, and worry that losing any project can be a threat to survival. If they restrict usage, they’re afraid they might lose a job.

It’s all about working from the negative. And it’s all about thinking about oneself only, forgetting that the actions of each of us in our industries affects all of us. We need to remember, and to remind lowballers, that we need to stick together to continue to have good paying projects over the long term and that by working together as colleagues we don’t need to be so concerned about the “competition.”

Let me explain. At this point in time, there are still a lot of projects out there that have good budgets. Agencies call creatives for their bids (in the ever-popular triple-bid system), and have plenty of money to spend. Two of the bids come in close to each other and one comes in at less than half the price. Who gets the project? Very often the middle or the highest bid. The choice between those two is based on which is the best creative match for the project. The lowest bid is simply ignored.

Surprised? You shouldn’t be. Agencies and clients can still see the value in the higher bids. They know that those bidders have respect for the value of their work and the importance of the project. The higher bidders won’t waste money, but will spend it where needed to ensure the best quality solution they can provide; and they most definitely will not cut-corners trying to make do with less than they need to produce the best solution, as a lowballer would to try and make a profit.

It’s win-win-win for the freelance creative, the agency, and the client. And that is the way most of the business is. One of the best results of this business approach is that creatives are no longer in frantic competition with each other. By that I mean that when price is no longer the most important issue, the right creative is selected for any particular project because s/he is the best match for the project. It frees the creative to focus on doing the best creative work s/he can do and that will bring in more and better work—so you won’t need to panic if you don’t get that one project.

Unfortunately, lowballers don’t see this. They don’t seem to understand the value of, well, value. But it shouldn’t be that difficult of a concept. For example, when you buy a car you know that a BMW is going to cost more than a Kia. Why? Because the BMW is a greater value—it has a higher resale price, it has a good reputation and will last, it’s better designed (both inside and out), and it gives others the impression that you are more successful. For that value you pay considerably more than for the Kia.

Agencies and clients aren’t stupid—they want to save money, of course, but they also understand that spending money for value is a good business decision. If they are spending $10Million on ad placement (media), they understand that the visual had better be compelling and the right visual for the ad. They’re going to want to work with someone who understands the importance of that investment and who will give them the visual that they need. Someone who bids $5000 to create that visual does not show that they understand the value of the ad and the value of their own work--and they will not be awarded the project. Someone who bids in the six-figures shows that they do understand these concepts and they will get the project. Remember, $100, 000 is only 1% of that $10Million media buy—this is not an unreasonable number.

How many lowball projects will it take to earn that $100,000?

Now, unfortunately, because of the lowball mentality, those of us in the creative industries are facing greater, more organized threats to our livelihoods. We need to be aware of these threats so that we can face them, choose not to support and/or use them, and educate other creative professionals to do the same.

In the case of photography there are companies like OnRequestImages.com, which claims to provide “custom stock” (an oxymoron) at a low rate. Photographers who work with OnRequest are freelancers who, essentially, shoot projects on spec, with no guarantee of getting any project or even making up their expenses. Even when they do “win” the project, the money is way to low for the rights granted.

On the design side, there is eLance.com. This site has companies post projects (from IT to creative) then the “service providers” bid on those projects. Usually, lowest bid wins. If you take a look at their listings, they have over 3000 graphic design providers...and growing.

Some agencies, especially low-end ones, love these services because they are saving buckets of money on their creative budgets. And who can blame them?! If they can give their clients strong enough creative for less than half the cost of using a traditional designer or photographer or illustrator, they are compelled to do so. As the quality of the product produced by the creatives who are providing their services via these companies improves, more and more agencies and end-clients are going to use them.

But who is going to make money—the creatives? No way. These “service” companies will. Hand over fist. Large, impersonal, corporations who care little for the creativity but will squeeze a penny until Lincoln screams if it means increasing the share price.

Eventually, if we continue down the current path, we will be left with creative services bought and sold as commodities for the most part, and an elite few (VERY few) in each discipline who will be able to command large sums for their work.

We can stop this from happening. We need to contact these “creative service providers” and educate them (forget about the “services” themselves as all they care about is the bottom line). Explain to these creatives how they are hurting the industry and, more importantly, how they can make more money and work less by running their businesses in an ethical manner. Show them the example I gave above. Share real world numbers with them. Let them see how they can earn more because they are worth more. Encourage them to strive for something better than being busy creative serfs, and keep them from working for these “services” like OnRequest and eLance. Help them find their spirit—what it was that made them become creatives in the first place.

Also, share this information with student creatives. So many graduate from art programs with little to no coursework in business. They are the future of our industry and we need to take the time to make sure they understand how it works and what they can do to continue to improve the financial and creative aspects of their careers.

Lowballing, whether the “old fashioned” variety or couched in these new “services,” brings down the fair market value of any creative service. And that, in the end, hurts the lowballer as well as the rest of us. Once the bar is lowered to the lowballers’ level, there will not only be no raising of it (no matter how we try), but also, sooner or later, someone else will lowball the lowballers and the downward spiral will continue. We need to put a stop to it now.

In order for creativity to continue, for it to be given the space needed to explore new possibilities and to grow, we need to keep the financial bar raised. Will we be able to change everyone? No, of course not. But we can change many people’s attitudes and by doing so ensure that we all have healthy businesses in the future.

©2004 Leslie Burns-Dell’Acqua


About the Author: Leslie Burns-Dell'Acqua is the owner of Burns Auto Parts & Consultants. A former photographers' rep, she now helps creative professionals improve their businesses. Leslie is a tireless advocate for creatives? rights and has written several articles on creative business issues.

  1. link to this comment by Chris Sat Sep 10, 2005

    Leslie,

    This is an apt article that addresses part of the issue of what is happening right now with LogoWorks.

    But how do designers stem the tide on the huge marketing push LogoWorks have unleashed? Corporations such as Constant Contact and HP have joined with LogoWorks at the hip to create a monster in not just our back yard, but in our face.

    The silence on this matter from the AIGA is deafening.

    Chris, a concerned citizen of the design world

  2. link to this comment by Everpress Thu Oct 27, 2005

    LogoWorks... Yeah, they are a scourage to many creatives, but the best hing to look at is the lawsuits that are waiting for large design-mills like that. I have seen multiple logos that are ripoffs from existing designs under other designers... This kind of low-balling will pass us by when those mills are shut down.

  3. link to this comment by Cpawl Mon Feb 06, 2006

    While I agree with much of this article, sometimes a "lowballer" might not be "lowballing". I have taken on many freelance jobs where my totals were less than other bidders or even an average going rate. My billing total was not set to "lowball" the other guy or the industry for that matter. I configured a rate based on what I, as a freelancer, feel the job is worth and my time and work are worth. Most of the time the reason(s) my bids were lower was not because of a devious "lowball" but because the price that I believe is fair just so happens to be lower than the others. This reality comes from the fact that some freelancers and/or design houses are simply over charging for things.

    A recent small example of this was a minor job someone had posted on a forum looking to install any type of blogging system for there domain. Forum users were posting bids that ranged from $500 to $2500 . I was baffled by this. Sure, I am a professional, I have experience, and I make my living freelancing... but I am not delusional. Although I like to be paid just like the next guy I do not charge rates that are literally sometimes higher than what a lawyer or doctor charges per hour. Long story shortened... I emailed the poor smoe from the forum and installed Wordpress for him on his server. It took me less than an hour. Just to "lowball" those greedy ba$tard$ on the forum... I charged this kid absolutely nothing for my time.

  4. link to this comment by Jon Mon Feb 06, 2006

    great article. ive been a lowerballer for years (i started designing stuff out of high school) and am planning on going for a degree in design over the next 4 years and learning the creative side of things as opposed to get the job done as fast as possible.

    i dont want to be working for small town businesses doing $50 logos the rest of my life and this article really made me think how being creative should come at a premium.

    thanks

  5. link to this comment by Chuck Thu Feb 09, 2006

    Sorry to tell you this but when technology starts to dominate a profession that is skill or craft-based then there will be a shedding of skin.

    Back in the 1980s there was a skill known as typesetting. It took years of painstaking effort to become skilled in this craft. Desktop Publishing software was not perceived as a threat initially because the technology could not compete with the exacting requirements of the typesetting and their paymasters, the publisher.

    It soon became apparent, however, that the general public didn't give a hoot for the niceties of kerning and, whilst the typesetters railed against the commodification of their craft, publishers who adopted the technology found their costs reduced and the barrier to entry was lowered considerably.

    The typesetter is now merely an entry in the history of publishing.

    This is now the case with your industry.

    There are many people and companies who would never consider stock photography at the prices you maintain are essential to your profession. Websites, for example, do not need the kind of resolution or exacting quality that a glossy brochure for a large company might require. To these people the ability to purchase acceptable images which suit their purpose for a few bucks allows them to transcend clip-art et al and compete above their weight.

    The hobbyist photographer who shows some skill is now able to earn a bit from their hobby..And why not?

    There will always be a place for the true creative innovater and talented artist but the nuts and bolts of images are going the way of ebay.

    Canute tried to teach a lesson once about his inability to command the tide, even 'though he was assumed to be all-powerful.

    You should learn from the lesson he taught.

    Asking for somebody to "do something" is like shaking your fist at God because he doesn't make everyone nice to each other.

    Adapt, or die. You have no other alternative. Your future is not as certain as you thought it was.

    Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Whether it's "right" or "wrong" is irrelevant. You are not an immovable object but you are up against an irresistable force.

  6. link to this comment by Erik Thu Feb 09, 2006

    Part of the problem with this is that prices for service, creative and otherwise, have a crazy shotgun plot on the graph. Many agencies and creatives are secretive about their rates prohibiting others from adjusting their rates accordingly. So lowballing happens due to lack of education and insight, not desperation.

    With advice from firms like, "Charge what it's worth to the client." how are we supposed to be continent?

    Then you have names to contend with. Not a lot of people are going to be looked at by BMW for design help. I'm not going to command the same salary as Milton Glasser, so if I bid for the same job that he is, am I lowballing?

    Look at your overhead, look at your resources and time and charge away. With as tightlipped as we creatives are, the only one who'll know who is lowballing is the client that got the quotes.

  7. link to this comment by Nostrada Tue May 09, 2006

    Just a thought: when you talk about lawballers, you disapprove their not taking into account the entire industry, but you're ok with you charging way more and not taking into account the rest of the world. Funny that.

  8. link to this comment by hausy Wed Mar 21, 2007

    Maybe instead of pointing the finger at independent designers who charge less per hour, agencies should start rethinking nickel and diming their clients. For example - charging a fee for phone consultations? Give me a break.

    Personally I'm all for the "low-baller," given that they actually have some talent.

    Agencies are overpriced and overhyped.

  9. link to this comment by Colleen Mon Mar 26, 2007

    Lowballing isn't good for any industry, but it is especially harmful to the design industry.

    Those who support lowballing often don't think that they are lowering their own potential worth. Sure they make a quick buck now, but when technology changes...I dunno...maybe tomorrow...and every JohnQPublic goes into business designing $10 logos or whatnot, what is the lowballer going to charge?

    Sooner or later it directly effects everyone. Many of us started out with very low prices as a portfolio building option only to find that when the charges are raised they are stuck with the stigma of being a lowballer and are destined to spend their lives workign harder than they need to for far much less than they are worth.

    Time, resources and expenses need to be recouped and should be reasonably billed...talent is priceless....charge accordingly. The cream always rises to the top and most clients who are worth having understand the value in great design and are more than willing to pay for it. Why sell yourself short?

  10. link to this comment by Warbo Sat May 05, 2007

    Good comment, Colleen. As I read this thread I wondered why the article and subsiquent comments weren't covering this point.

    I've worked for LogoWorks for a couple of years...Now my current computer and software aren't cutting it and I can't afford to upgrade. I see tons of people on Guru.com taking logo bids for $50 a pop, and I shudder to think that these kids won't be around for too long, only to be replaced by new generations of lowballers destined for the same fate. It's sort of sickening and I'm ashamed I've been a part of it for so long.

    What's more, for the amount I've been taking, I can't provide near the quality of work a firm can. The most I can afford to put into a LogoWorks logo is four, maybe five hours. On occasion, I can put out something I'm happy with, but even then, the client will choose something else that won't adequetly suit their business. I can't put in enough time to do field research, I can't afford to keep my typefaces current, I can't really explore the problems.

    The plight is that if I raise my standards, I will be outbid by some young designer who either doesn't know or doesn't care that s/he won't be around long, and if I don't I'm just going to BE one of those designers who won't be around.

  11. link to this comment by Patrick Sat May 19, 2007

    The existence of people who "design" $50 logos is not necessarily in direct confict with what we as creative professionals are striving to achieve: being viewed as a strategic business asset.

    The companies that pay $50 for a logo were never going to pay the $100,000 for an ad anyway. It is important to recognize that there is a fundamental difference between the types of clients we can pursue. I personally take delight in seeing these $50-Designers out there. Their work makes mine look so much better.

    Being fearful of the lowballer is, in my opinion, a subtle admission of your own insecurity; an insecurity that stems from the fear that your outstanding work won't be valued. It will be valued...just not by everyone.

    And that's okay. There are a lot of clients out there who recognize the value of superior creatives and I would much rather work for them anyway.

    Beware the slippery slope you doom-and-gloomers are presenting. It's not real.

  12. link to this comment by Warbo Fri May 25, 2007

    This may only be partly true. The biggest part of this problem, I think, is that more and more clients don't know excellent work from really bad work. There's a mentality in business today, especially in small business, that all designers are created equal and that cheaper is better.

    This metality is starting to set into big business as well. I have seen international corporations post jobs on cheapie design networks saying they will reject bids over $x. They could afford much better, but they just want cheaper. They think they can run their company strictly by the numbers.

    This approach may affect their bottom line in the long run, but this doesn't help, since they don't have the insight to attribute it to the poor quality of design they've imposed on themselves. Instead they just make further cutbacks.

    Essentially the problem is that the pool of businesses who will pay for good design is shrinking. I think the solution to the lowballer problem isn't just the lowballers themselves. In fact, they're the victims.

    My point is that many capable designers fall into the lowball rut and don't realize that they won't be able to run their business long-term on what they're bidding. They need to charge what they're worth and clients need to understand that it's better that way. What needs to go is the cheaper-is-better business mentality.

  13. link to this comment by Jessica Sun Jun 03, 2007

    So my big question as a novice designer is "what exactly IS a fair price to charge for different projects?" As a novice, I feel that charging a lower price based on my experience is just the way it goes, not much different than taking an entry level position. At this point in my career I'm not exactly in the running for 6 figure projects; I could understand the concern if I was. Maybe making pricing less of a mystery to those new and old to the industry would be a start to a solution. I have searched for some semblance of a fair pricing list, and all I have uncovered is articles discussing the evils of low balling and spec work.

  14. link to this comment by bro182 Sun Jun 10, 2007

    This is the question facing hundreds of newly graduated Graphic Designers every year. You may choose to seek employment with an already established design firm doing designs for many different clients on many different subjects. You may join an “in-house” design department of a larger business or perhaps the art department for a commercial printer. If web design is your specialty you may seek employment with a local ISP or the web department at an ad agency. All of these career paths will allow you to express your skills and talents under the supervision of someone else. Finding one of these jobs is another story.

    A lot of you will wish to go the entrepreneurial route and work as a freelancer. In this case the product you are selling is your own artistic skills and abilities, however if you need to make a living check out Graphic Artists Guild Handbook: Pricing & Ethical Guidelines

    http://www.gag.org/pegs/index.php

  15. link to this comment by Tony MacFarlane Fri Jun 29, 2007

    All the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth pitying the poor creative! To me, it is just a case of the chicken coming home to roost. If y'all hadn't invented the voodoo profession to fatten yourselves in the economic boom of the sixites--presenting your talents as some sort of divinee touch--if you had honestly presented the results of your work as no more than puff-paste, then you wouldn't have ended up with your cups out when the rest of the world found out what a spurious job it is to make up decorations.

    If you hadn't taken it upon yourselves to fool the rest of the world about the relevance of the services you offer, and hidden behind phony credentials and exclusionary klatzches, you wouldn't have had your asses hanging out when the rest of the world caught on to how useless your contributions are.

    Yeah, sure, you can convince a few korporate klutzes that the swoosh will earn them a fortune. But now a store owner finds out that the identity he comped up in Microsoft Office works just as well, then y'all start clucking like constipated hens. Well, let this serve as a lesson: there is always a wolf at the window.

  16. link to this comment by nick Thu Aug 02, 2007

    Tony, I can understand why you posted the comment you did -- your portfolio shows that you really don't understand the importance of good design. For the rest of us...

    As long as there are clients/companies out there that understand the proven benefits of good, effective design, I don't think low-ballers and those who are ignorant about the profession will harm us all that much. Reputable companies and clients should continue to pay market value for quality work since most low-ballers don't produce quality work.

  17. link to this comment by karen Tue Aug 28, 2007

    Egads, Tony. Keep lowballing...your clients deserve you...and your work is what makes real designers worth every penny.

  18. link to this comment by meredith Wed Aug 29, 2007

    It's obvious that some small businesses can't afford the help of a big creative firm and in the absence of an affordable alternative they will probably use the signmaker's in-house guy, their cousin Mike's son who can draw, or worse, have a "contest" to design their logo.

    I tire of looking at these rubbish designs and I think there is a place for what you term "lowballers." I don't think it will threaten the true creative firms any more than Kia threatens BMW. What it will do is expose the clunky, over-priced dinosaurs who can't keep up with progress. What we need to do is become more streamlined and efficient while maintaining quality and not become immovable in our pricing and production practices. Competition is a fact of life. What you have to do is offer something that no one else does.

  19. link to this comment by Gretchen Tue Sep 18, 2007

    So as the only in-house designer at a company with a quick overturn of projects, is it really considered lowballing to receive a less-than-a-quarter of market price as an hourly wage – Especially when receiving benefits (health and dental) and being provided a workspace and maintenance and updates on your computer? If so, what is a suggestion of how can I approach them with statistical information on what would be a fair market price would be and still make have them feel like they are getting a steal of a deal. Out-sourcing is really not an option in this area. The quality is less than poor and the turn-around is way too slow.

  20. link to this comment by Stephen Kling Fri Oct 05, 2007

    Clearly pricing is the mother-lode of every designer's angst and anger. I've been doing this kind of thing for many years now, and I've made every mistake that could be made from a business (and design) standpoint.

    The younger designer is always faced with the agony of what to charge for a given job, and I don't think there will ever be a pat answer. Every designer finds his market eventually, and the pricing comes along with it. Clients run the gamut from generous and smart to cheap and dumb. Avoid the cheap and dumb. But don't be too hard on yourself if you get caught with a cheap and dumb client. You'll learn from the experience.

    To those who find themselves doing $50 logos, understand that you are being victimized, but if you're any good at all, you'll quickly figure out that you can't live on $50 logos. Those who don't learn end up in other lines of work.

    It's a matter of relative worth, isn't it? A nice dinner for two in your town may cost $50. It takes the chef 10 minutes to cook it, the waiter 2 minutes to serve it, and the busboy 3 minutes to clean it up. So what should a logo be worth? It depends on who it's for, of course, but is a logo that a businessman uses to promote his business for years and years worth only one dinner? Maybe, if it took you 10 minutes to cook it, 2 minutes to serve it and 3 to clean up afterwards. But most likely it's worth a whole lot more.

    You have a right (and obligation to yourself) to say "No."

  21. link to this comment by Suzanne in CT Sun Dec 30, 2007

    I think what's important here is to understand that the people who are offering low-balling prices are doing so to companies who can and expect higher fees and also expect to engage in a negotiation regarding the fee. This isn't about winning, it's about earning a living. And if one is disgusted with what they feel are inflated prices by a design company, well, take a look into what those employers seeking to contract a creative professional make.

    I see a difference between a typesetter and what a photographer offers. First of all computers did not banish people who actually know what "kerning" is. And there are still typesetting positions within publishing houses. But the typesetting industry did shift with the introduction of computers. I've met typesetters who shifted into in-house production positions. However, it is important to note that standards can get lost in the shuffle with change if an industry doesn't up hold those standards and educate all that goes with delivering a quality product.

    Praising a company that profits more than the low-balling creative doesn't make sense. Why should a service and a large company be considered worthy of charitable prices by those who are in no position to offer charity? And this isn't about charity, it's about business and ensuring that creative professionals have the right as anyone else to earn a living that allows them to pay bills,buy benefits and have a little time off like the next guy. In this day and age of Enron-like travesties it's clear to me that some feel it's acceptable to do business in a way that slowly erodes our economy. They may not realize they're doing this, but look at it this way; America was once a healthy manufacturing country. . .some towns haven't recovered from jobs being sent overseas. We now are a country where millions can't afford health insurance how did this happen? Well fair competition is one thing, unfair competition that knocks out all other competitors is another.

    I'd like to see how a low baller fares in the future-do they burn out? do they leave the industry when they realize they can't earn a living? Low-balling translates to working longer hours or worse cutting corners which could be costly for a company that may end up with an identity design that was bootlegged from copyrighted material.

    But I do see a solution to this problem. I would suggest creative professionals band together to offer their own bidding service-sounds odd-but possible? why not?. If you can't join them then adapt their format and beat them-only do it better. . .much better. Offer companies a chance to bid within a service that offers seasoned professionals who understand all that goes into a identity design and other key projects. There would be a set starting fee and undisclosed professionals place their fee from that price point. In the end I believe most select a quality product over an unknown.

    I don't believe we have to accept a jaded view that jobs that supported our economy have to die or be picked off in favor of helping a select few profit considerably off the backs of others. With technology some jobs will fade, but they must be replaced with healthy alternative for the working professional and this can be done.

  22. link to this comment by Michael Wed Jan 02, 2008

    I have really enjoyed reading this article and the responses. Perceived value is definitely what is at stake.

    I recently was promoted (demoted?) from graphic designer(slash)production artist to pre-press manager. Yes, I took the position because there was more money involved. The in-house marketing design work was given to a person with no degree and little experience in design (I will concede that she is probably the best designer I've seen without a degree) for less pay. Now, I am framing everyone else's paintings instead of doing the painting myself. Did I make the right move? I don't know.

    A particular aspect of design that keeps popping up in articles is "problem solving". If we are so great at it, then shouldn't we be able to solve this? Currently, it appears that the problem solvers are the programmers for Adobe and Microsoft as well as the camera manufacturers, Canon and Nikon. Public perception is, "if I have a small handle on these products, then I am a professional designer or photographer just like taking a Bob Ross course in painting makes me a professional painter".

  23. link to this comment by lowballer Thu Jan 10, 2008

    i need to eat... and now you have to deal with a designer that needs to eat... so... whatever it takes to get the food on my table.

  24. link to this comment by Gravity Fri Jan 11, 2008

    It is too bad, that non-established designers have to essentially "gamble" if they want to get to the point where they have enough money to be picky. It's easy to say no when you have a cushion, but that's just not realistic in many cases. Personally I can't believe anybody would do a $50 logo. Even starting out I valued my services more. I also have the faith that most clients can appreciate the difference.

    Insofar as the design bidding sites are concerned, I've noticed that many of the bidders are from India and other countries where a designer can afford to live on $50 logos. In most cases they are worth about that, but some are actually passable as decent...

    As professional designers we have to educate the client that our value lies within our ability to provide an understanding of their market, based on research. This understanding is what allows us to come up with relevant branding that connects with their market. That and good design, it does make a difference.

    And Tony, are you actually making a living? Looking at your portfolio, I think that you have a firm grasp on the importance of what YOU do for a living...

  25. link to this comment by the smu Mon Jan 21, 2008

    i think the key point brought up here is the secrecy surrounding rates. it leaves the newer designer totally out to sea with regards to what to charge. i 'm pretty sure my rates are cheap - maybe i'm a lowballer, who knows.. but they are based on the kind of wages i have made in other, non-creative jobs in the past. and what i think is fair.
    i tend to work mostly for small budget clients - small businesses, vol orgs, artists, musicians - not quite pro bono, but clients for whom budget is a real issue rather than a percieved one.
    i also charge based on my skills and experience. i am self-taught and whilst i know i am good, i also know i am not exceptional.
    i have my rates online, which seems to be a taboo in itself, because i believe in transparency and honesty and not adjusting my rates depending on the client.
    of course, in the future, i would like to earn more - but surely no-one expects freelancers just to start charging £1000's per project from the offset?

  26. link to this comment by CV Tue Jan 22, 2008

    I, the malcontent, agree that work performed at rates of $50-99.00 per project is threatening the freelance industry to some degree. But as stated, quality work commands higher value. And most business owners and agencies are aware that they will get what they pay for. If you really think about it, logos priced at such an absurdly low rate are contradictory to the whole branding process. Cookie-cutter logos offer no longevity because they lack creativity, appeal, and character. Furthermore, this underbidding hurts people like me, who are freelancing and advertising our quality services at competitive rates amongst individuals and groups that greatly undermine standard industry practices. The only thing I can do is devise better advertising campaigns to get the message across to those prospects willing to see the light. Point aside, as AIGA members, perhaps we should work together to create a series of posters or ads that clearly express our feelings about these heedless, "lowballing," logo vending machines. Personally, I like to call them "gum ball logos" — as in the cheaply dispensed items they are. With the little integrity and consideration for the industry that most of these "lowballing" designers and businesses have, I often wonder if their wives's engagement rings weren't purchased from a gumball machine as well.

    I don't know what else to say?

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  27. link to this comment by the smu Thu Jan 24, 2008

    "With the little integrity and consideration for the industry that most of these "lowballing" designers and businesses have, I often wonder if their wives's engagement rings weren't purchased from a gumball machine as well."

    wow.

    you know, most people i know of who work for lower rates actually take their work very seriously and many of the clients that have smaller budgets also do. i often have people get a quote from me, go away and literally save the money up, then come back and hire me.
    i think when you are talking about large corporates that's another matter but a lot of 'lowballers' on both side of the employer/employee relationship are just people starting out or doing their best with what they have.
    if you know you are better and are worth the higher rates then there is no reason to feel threatened. cheapskate and low budget clients would never hire you anyway.

    oh, and re: the engagement ring - i got my wedding ring for £30 from an antique jewelers if that counts. it's beautiful.
    and some of us are girls too ;)

  28. link to this comment by Charity Thu Jan 24, 2008

    I've actually been offered work submitting illustrations and images to a website that sells them off, in a manner not unlike you described. I have chosen not to pursue that type of work, because of my own beliefs in the value of my work. However, I've just moved to Seattle a few months ago, have worked freelance since I left school....and I can say that it is very difficult for a new designer in a new place, to receive any work; let alone command big bucks for it.

    I understand you are talking about agency-experienced designers and advertisers, but what about us little guys....the ones who the big guys expect to have 2-3 years of agency (not freelance) experience working for? What are we left with if we don't have an uncle or friend in the biz?

  29. link to this comment by Douglas Neiner Mon Feb 04, 2008

    Perhaps it is because I am in a part of the country where designers support each other and our industry, but there are a number of things that keep lowballers, as you call them, from bothering me.

    1) Work on as much referral business as possible. Generally when you have come with good recommendations from a friend or co-worker, a client will give you the benefit of the doubt if your price is indeed fair. If you are not bringing more to the table than the lowballer, or if there is absolutely no difference between their end product and yours, why should the client pay you more?

    2) Have pride in what you do, not pride in who you are. It seems that many artists are unwilling to take simple marketing steps or make good business decisions because they are "artists" and the world owes them respect. Businesses respect professionalism and quality work, but they do not owe you anything. You need to present yourself and your business in a professional and courteous way.

    3) Run a business, don't be a "freelancer" -- This is my personal preference, but it has served me well. A freelancer is just a person very much unlike the businesses and corporations they are working for. A business, however, is something other business understand. They understand overhead, time frames, margins, etc. If I were promoting myself alone for the last two and a half years in business, I do not think I would have been as successful. I found it very easy, however, to promote the business I owned. It is very easy to sell a business, but much harder to sell a person. Did most of my clients know I was the only one at the business for a while? YES! This isn't smoke and mirrors as much as it is a perspective on life.

    Bottom line... there are hundreds of people out their willing to pay for your services, its your job to find them, and leave those unwilling to pay for the lowballers.

  30. link to this comment by mikenorr Sun Mar 02, 2008

    Comparing freelancers and agencies is unfair and irrational. Though both live and work in the same industry, they really don’t compete against one another; each has, or should have a different target market. Businesses and individuals that are looking for the lowest price will most almost always go with a freelancer. Likewise, businesses and individuals that value proven creative design services will go with a reputable agency. Lowballers only lower the financial bar for businesses and individuals that are uneducated about creative design or value price over design.

    If an agency’s strategic position is to be all things to all people, in competition with every little designer out there, well… they’ve lost their vision of what they really want to be. Target doesn’t compete with Wal-Mart for price because they can’t, instead they offer a higher quality for consumers that aren’t as concerned about price. There is plenty of room for freelancers and agencies in the industry, and neither should be so concerned about the other.

  31. link to this comment by damianspil Sun Mar 02, 2008

    I feel that with the advent of technology we are simply overlooking the true value of design. Anyone with a computer and some adobe software can create a logo, but does that make it design?—not necessarily. Can you create a logo in an hour?—sure. Can you charge $50 for that hour?—of course. Does that make you a designer?—no. As designers (in any field) we must first address the difference between creativity and easy execution. From this definition we will be able to clearly justify our higher pricing methods.

    I can mix a mean rum and coke but that doesn't make me a bartender... (another profession which has lost its craft and dedication).

  32. link to this comment by LeAnn Thu Mar 06, 2008

    I don't think we have to worry about low ballers. The thing is, is the businesses that do not understand the value professional design will bring to their business will use the low ballers and get what they pay for. Of course, since they do not understand value, they will either learn it eventually or they will not stay in business very long. And those that offer the low ball prices also get what they offer - an uneducated client that will not value them. They too will either learn how to values themselves or they will not stay in business either. The market has a tendency to correct itself in this way.

  33. link to this comment by Richard Tue May 13, 2008

    Sign seen two weeks ago in an auto repair shop near my house:

    "We know the guy across the street charges less for what he does – but then he knows what he's worth."

  34. link to this comment by Richard Tue May 13, 2008

    Another observation observed:

    When it comes to pricing your creativity, you must have faith in yourself and the uniqueness of the talent you possess.

    A cynic knows the price of everything ad the value of nothing.

  35. link to this comment by Matthew Moeller Wed May 14, 2008

    Excellent article. I have worked on both sides of the fence and can appreciate both arguments. We have used LogoWorks three times for clients of ours who didn't want to pay our rates. All resulted in the same outcome, maxed out the rounds of revisions and ultimately did not receive what they were looking for. In this case the blame should fall on the cheap client and not so creative professionals who have lowered the value in clients past experience not LogoWorks. We spend allot of time explaining to cheaper clients why the cheap logo is nothing more than freelancers left overs (rounds of logos for other clients that were not selected) . If the client can’t tell a difference after you explain the effort that “should” go into it, do you really want them as a client? Even though it costs our firm in the end I still respect LogoWorks for their ingenuity and business savvy.

    I think the term “fair market value” is relative to your firms size. We are a small shop with 7 employees and we constantly, unknowingly, underbid the large shops in town. We charge what we feel is fair market value and our employees make well above average wages for our state. We charge much more than freelancers yet to these firms we are seen as the lowballers. We don't have to charge as much because we operate out of class C space and the partners take honest salaries. If we chose to pick up some stellar studio space and the higher ups decided to take larger salaries and in turn pass that cost on to the clients we would have to charge more. So are we lowballers because we don't have a bigger overhead? That being said, at the rate we are growing it won’t be long until we are the infamous “large shop”, I’m sure my opinion will change.

    Just my two cents.

  36. link to this comment by Shelly Thu May 15, 2008

    There are people who don't know good design from bad design, or worse, they prefer bad design.
    There are also people who think being a designer means simply knowing photoshop. These people offer "grahic design" positions for $12 an hour and ask for skills that usually require a 2 year degree at least, maybe a 4 year. You could be a secretary and make what they pay, requiring far less stress & talent.

    Of course only bad or desperate designers take these jobs, but that makes other companies feel like they're doing you a favor when they pay you slightly above poverty level. They are business people & have no appreciation for artistic talent or have no issue in taking advantage of people. Unfortunately, the industry is flooded with people who make a living doing design work when they simply know some computer programs. I've worked with these people, but at least it was acknowledged that I was the talent at my job.

    Yeah, I don't like lowballers either, or people who do graphic design & have no eye for it. They're usually one & the same, but what is worse are those who are content with their work. Everytime you open up some local magazine, or restaurant menu, or get handed a business card, & it looks ugly as sin & is barely legible, thank those talentless lowballers & the cheapskates who hire them.

  37. link to this comment by Rolando Wed Sep 10, 2008

    I understand that we all have to eat. We all have to pay for our homes and support our families. What I think low-ballers don't don't see is that they are working twice as hard for half the pay. While they work feverishly to get several things out in a day, I am allowed a lot more time on a single project.

    Low-ballers think that designers who insist on fair market price are over-paid fat cats, but the truth is that we aren't all fat cats who are living it up. We are hard-working professionals who feel that our clients deserve effective solutions to their unique problems. In most cases creating that unique design system that meets client expectations requires a process. Good business minds see design as a business tool that has real value when implemented and executed strategically. Creating effective communication isn't like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Poof! and here come the masses.

    The accessibility of digital design tools is such that many designers are panicking as they watch under-qualified individuals trying to take on the role of designer and charging very little for their services.

    Personally, I would rather work on one project for 40 hours, than four projects for 40 hours. Charging fare prices allows for that. Low-ballers are scrambling to find enough work and get the jobs done super fast to get paid - I assume so they can eat that week. They don't realize that if they just use some common business sense, they can build a better and more effective product, charge a premium and deliver a tool that will help their clients grow (which nurtures more work in the future).

    And let me point out that low-ballers run the show in my market. I certainly am not one of them and my family eats well.

  38. link to this comment by Roy Fri Sep 19, 2008

    One problem is really knowing when you are low balling. I've read before that it is illegal in the United States to discuss rates between consulting and contract companies to stop price manipulation.

    The real problem isn't with the big companies usually though with this, it is the small businesses. if they can get a site or logo designed for $200 by a company who pays freelance employees $50 a pop then they will jump on that to save money. However, you can usually pick out the designs created for $200 versus the ones created for thousands.

    I worked for a company that paid for a logo and in the end they got their name in red with a dot by it. But they paid $200 bucks for it, so I'm not sure what kind of brand building they were hoping to get.

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